friends who care

http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/%5C
better press on live now

They have a direction they are going too with assistance of FBI and Ca state troopers etc
Pastor was interviwed last night
someone ( not related a man )also living with pastor
persons of interest #'s he can't comment
search warrants well over 10
in 12 years out of 9 he work for LE he had NEVER been on that road ever!

police have another surveillance tape not yet released
WS said the name was martino guest at pastor's house
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/04/07/sandra-cantu-case-church-is-crime-scene/

I hope it isn't the pastor church roped off and then search warrant was issued for his home. Something must have been found inside that church!

Ribbon wrote:the family was notified before the presser and Sandra's mother was hospitalized. I don't think they would have been in any condition to be at the press conference

poor thing....my heart just tears up for this lady.

during conference LE said there is lots of evidence

dy, you mean the pastor of the church may be suspect?

gonna crash into WS and see if they have name of the pastor's guest bbs!

Ribbon wrote:during conference LE said there is lots of evidence

oh my gosh...evidence with the girls body...or at someone's home?

on Slater
snipped by me from WS

We later learned DS took her bowling & other places..She visited his home a few xs a week..He's married with a 'disabled' son..I want to know MORE about the son..Any REAL info on him yet?


They are talking about the red ribbon not being mentioned since the first break and wondering if indeed there was one, not visible to the eye from the live videos of it being in the water

They are also talking about a 44 year old guy named Porfirio Martino or Martinez, not giving last name of Hispanic descent

Mish wrote:

Ribbon wrote:during conference LE said there is lots of evidence

oh my gosh...evidence with the girls body...or at someone's home?

Le said on news that autopsywas still in progress he was referring to evidence collected ... I don't know where if it was in the suitcase, Church, home, or elsewhere.
They said Church is tiny sits to the west of the mobile park

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Kat, I posted that earlier on the forensic astrology thread. The hispanic man is listed as associated with the pastor on veromi.net

btw it is Lot 76

what is veromi.net Shels?

here is pastor and article again I am taking this all from WS ~ oops
http://www.clover-road-baptist-church.com/Pastor1.html

Ribbon wrote:sniped
Kat, I posted that earlier on the forensic astrology thread. The hispanic man is listed as associated with the pastor on veromi.net

btw it is Lot 76

what is veromi.net Shels?

I think it's likle a people's Searcher/Criminal Background, etc

Geez, what kind of folks in this church? IF IF IF it were to be a church emplyee...makes it even more devastating

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090407/A_NEWS/90407004/-1/A_SPECIAL0263

Tracy church a crime scene in girl’s slaying (9:57 a.m.)






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By The Record

April 07, 2009 12:58 PM


TRACY -- The Police Department, shifting gears from trying to find Sandra Cantu to trying to find her killer, has roped off Clover Road Baptist Church with yellow crime-scene tape.

The church is less than 100 yards west of Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, where Cantu lived. The 8-year-old girl’s body was discovered Monday inside a suitcase floating in an irrigation pond two miles north of her home.

A residence inside the mobile-home park also has been roped off as a crime scene.

Tracy police Sgt. Tony Sheneman was holding a 10 a.m. news conference today.

A tree in front of the Orchard Estates park has become an unofficial memorial to Cantu. Passersby, some of them softly weeping with heads bowed, continue to drop off balloons, stuffed animals, notes and candles.

Tracy Unified has several counselors meeting with students this morning at Melville S. Jacobson Elementary where Cantu had been a student.

Come back to recordnet.com for updates and read Wednesday’s Record for more on this story.


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Wonder if the kissing guy Wahler I think thats his name I think is still a suspect and Slayter?

snipped too
interesting...
A reporter asked the SGT giving the presser something along the lines of...on the video it looks like Sandra sees someone/something off frame have you looked into...etc...

LE responds with, first a question Have you seen the video?

reporter says yes

LE says yes we saw the same thing...

that's how it was pretty much said IIRC

Clover Road Baptist Church is being searched now

Sniped Oh No!
I just read on my site that I can't post that ,,, a shed on the church property was where the crime took place,,, the church area is cordoned off and also the shed... and thinking the shed is where the crime took place...

OOo also that the Pastor and wife own space #57 in the trailer park...

Also the pastor's home has been searched..with evidence collected...

Clover Baptist church is 6 miles from the pond.

snipedA reporter from News10 talked to the guy who lives across the street from the church and he said hardly anyone attends the church and he rarely see's cars there.
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googled the church and foun this on my own
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2009/04/07/MNR116U792.DTL&o=5

here's that veromi does have martinez name on there
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/namesassocPASTOR.jpg

Ribbon wrote:snipedA reporter from News10 talked to the guy who lives across the street from the church and he said hardly anyone attends the church and he rarely see's cars there.
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Geez, no wonder...seems to be a church from hell!

Grief is something we have all felt, but never like a mother for a child! My heart goes out to Sandra's mother. The next few drawings depicts my feeling towards grief, they are at one time beautiful, and at another so very sad, and desparate. I am sure Sandra's mother is so very desparate right now. I hope they find the killer and he pays with his/her's life! There is nothing that will ever bring that little girl back!

I would like to soon send Sandra's mom a card...maybe some of us may want to also???

Daley, isn't this just horrible!! What kind of monsters walk with us here on earth?

Yes Mish, I would like to send something to Sandra's mother, but right now she is only trying to survive without her daughter.

Yes daley...she must just want to go with her baby...I can't even fatham the feeling she is going through...for all of us...it has to be the worsed ever imaginable...within time maybe we could send our thoughts to her...after her healing...

DALEY wrote:Yes Mish, I would like to send something to Sandra's mother, but right now she is only trying to survive without her daughter.

I just want to ad that every time I get a pet, I know that the time will come that I will grieve. IT IS THE PRICE OF LOVE! but not the way Sandra's mother had to find it, never should this happen. I feel as if I have to do something to change this horrible circumstance that is all too familiar!

Mish and Dy, I have to go out and do some kind of manual labor to get me out of this funk. I find this so depressing, and if any of us can come up with a way to help stop this, help families of lost children or like equa-search. I don't want to sit on my but and talk about this, I want to do SOMETHING!!!!
T H I N K !!!-

I'm taking my babies to Chuck E Cheese...that is what they want to do...so like you Daley...I need to go have happy fun...

I love you all so much! Bless you all...

CHURCH

"Sandra Cantu's classmates, teachers get help to cope with loss"
"The little girl has an older sibling who attends Jacobson."
http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/1761922.html

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12090693?source=most_viewed
...."Neighbors referred to the church on West Clover Road as being "little used" and said they only saw cars there about twice a week. According to the church web site, services are held on Wednesday nights and on Sundays. The pastor, Lane Lawless, has been at the church since 1981, and has served at churches in Hayward and Mountain View."

tHIS IS MY LITTLE PATH TO MY SANCTUARY AND PET CEMETARY. MY PETS R MY KIDS, AND I HONOR THEM! oH YES XMAS TREE GERANIUMS...SPRING FEVOR ON MY PART.

mY HEART WAS BROKEN WHEN MAC DIED ( LIKE dY AND HER BEAUTIFUL aTLANTIC/HORSE) A horse and animal whisperer told me mac would cross the rainbow bridge, so I wrote what is on his stone, this was done by lazar. I believe with all my heart I will be with mac, bronson, and all the beautiful animals and children who have gone before. I am not afraid of death, just the journey itself.

I'd like to take this house, and put it in the middle of 10 to 30 acres somewhere in this country, and take care of orphaned animals. Then, I would feel as I was giving back something to this world that was good.

Sorry, Sandra Cantu thing has made me very melodramatic! I get that way occationally (oh Dy I hear u laughing)
I wish I could get an anormous farm where all of us could live, create, teach children to ride horses, to teach art to children, take care of animals, have a cow for milk or cheese, grow our on veggies, oh lord, I sound like a hippy. Seriously, a place with no evil! I have to take a break, I am going to drive everyone nuts....I am having a hard day, sorry!

Such a sad time! Words cannot express what is in my heart for all the children around the globe that suffer.

Thank you all so much for you love and kindness! I will be going to visit the Grands shortly, they posted a video on my facebook with Josiah singing Happy Birthday.... so sweet!

I love you all so much! Again, we mourn a child together.

Sue, big buddy, did u get email?
It has been a sad day, and Dy has kept us up to date with all info. Watching "Issues" just to keep up because I have to watch "Idol".

DALEY wrote:Sue, big buddy, did u get email?
It has been a sad day, and Dy has kept us up to date with all info. Watching "Issues" just to keep up because I have to watch "Idol".

Hi Daley - Yep I did and responded to ya. Wow, took me a while to catch up with everything posted today. Just finnished though. Are you doing a little better lil buddy? The whole thing is sickening....

Kaci wrote:

DALEY wrote:Sue, big buddy, did u get email?
It has been a sad day, and Dy has kept us up to date with all info. Watching "Issues" just to keep up because I have to watch "Idol".

Hi Daley - Yep I did and responded to ya. Wow, took me a while to catch up with everything posted today. Just finnished though. Are you doing a little better lil buddy? The whole thing is sickening....

I went out worked in garden, really windy and all the raking I did last tuesday, so tried to clean up, but I needed to exercise all that sadness away. So I do feel better. I am so glad my so-called child is 38 yrs old, it is Mish and her yougins that worry me, but she is a mother hawk watching over them. What an age to grow up in....ugg!

Dale your yard looks great